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Say you took off 1/64” too much in one of the nut slots and now the string buzzes. Is this fixable, or is it a nut re-do?

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I replace the nut. It is cheap and god practice


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build up with bone dust and ca. i wouldn't do it on a "for sale" or a commisioned instrument but is very useful in repairing worn nuts when client doesn't want to spring the ready for a new nut.


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I say the fix is a new nut

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UV cured dental epoxy


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I tried the bone dust and CA, and I have never had any luck. I always get a squeaky sound when tuning the guitar, and it also caused a dull sound to the string. I say replace the nut. Like Michael said, good practice.
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Michael has the best solution if you can have access to the dental equipment. Which I don't think most of us do. A luthier at a repair shop showed me the dental epoxy trick and it worked great. Short of that the nut should probably be replaced. The bone dust trick sorta works, but often it doesn't work real well.

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A nut is too simple and inexpensive part to settle for less than just right. I also plays too big a role in the sound transfer. I do not like the idea of filling a nut. even with the hi tech dental epoxy and uv curing there has to to be a loss in energy, small as it may be.

Besides Doug, after it is done I bet you will find you did a better jub on the new nut than the first MichaelP38469.3898032407


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I agree. I plan on making a new one, but not until I am done experimenting with tolerances. Now that I have lowered some of the strings too much, I want to raise them temporarily and note it. Once I am complete I will make a new nut.

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why not just shim it?


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My neck is mahogany.....shim it with a 1/64" mahogany sliver?

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you could use mahogany, but since you are going to make a new one anyway why not just just use some business card, match book cover, what ever.crazymanmichael38469.8708564815


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Here is my reason for not shimming. I believe this is Doug's first build. It is just a nut, as simple of part as there is to replace. Shimming will work but making a new nut to spec will make it right. If Doug shims the nut,I bet he will look back in a short time and ask himself "Why didn't I just make a new nut". If he makes a new nut, he will ever ask himself "why didn't I just shim this nut?" Because he will know he did everything in his ability to build the guitar to the best of his ability.


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doug said he is going to do a new one, but not until he is finished with his experimenting. whilst experimenting, the shim gives the temporary leeway to experiment, cheaply, both financially and time wise, thus my suggestion.

but, on the otherhand, it could be argued that he needs the practice so the more nuts made the better.

but at no time did i suggest shimming as a permanent fix.


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Michael I didn't mean to sound like I was critasizing your advise, and after reading my responce I think it may have sounded like it. I ment only to incourage him to build another nut so that he would be very happy with his work. my appolagies if I came across worng. MichaelP38470.5399652778


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Any of you guys heard of the baking powder and super glue trick?
Supposedly it bonds to the bone and cures as hard too.
Breath on it when you add the drip of s glue to the filled cut and it helps cure faster. Moisture helps to activate it somehow.
Make up a wood sliver to add just a tiny bit of glue so you don't over fill it.

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I supose you could use micro beads and CA. I have some very small dia. capillaries that make dripping a single very small drop easy.


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